If you can stand the first 48 seconds of technical error, this is a pretty good podcast with Nathan Palmer and Professor Ken Guttman…podded from a pub in London on Halloween, 2014. We discuss American football in London, Alcoholics Anonymous, cults, UK healthcare…and other stuff.
So how many beers did Nathan finish at???
By the time the Healthcare discussion came about he was in deep…hence he could not adequately address Professor Guttman’s argument. But Guttman was in deep himself thus it was a fair fight.