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  1. Imagine a scenario where farmers raise pigs by binding there limbs, so they can’t move, and place them in a small pen. The farmers them force feed them until they are nice and plump. Then when they are ready the farmers grab the pigs by the body and rip them out of their bindings leaving behind bloody limbs. The limbless pigs are then sold in a store while slowly dying. Consumers take them home. Some people eat the pigs while they are still alive. Other people fry, roast, and boil the pigs alive. If you think about it people treat vegetables this way all the time, and we know plants react to outward stimuli, this has long been common knowledge, (https://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants) (http://news.psu.edu/story/141343/2008/08/25/research/probing-question-does-talking-plants-help-them-grow) so how do we know plants do not feel pain?

    The point I am trying to make is people often draw the line at mistreating animals, so why draw the line at mistreating plants? There is not enough research in studying the suffering of vegetation to come to a truly conclusive opinion, but this is one way to play devil’s advocate. This was an interview not a discussion of the potential philosophy behind Devries opinion. I find podcasts like this to be boring.

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